[Labs-l] creating a MapStory Labs project

Discussion:

Nitin Gadia

2012-07-27 23:13:30 UTC

Hello,

We recently attended Wikimania in Washington DC, where we met Erik
M?ller<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_M%C3%B6ller>,
who showed us Wikimedia Labs, telling us it would be a good fit. We're
interested in helping create a Wikimedia Labs project around serving *
mapstories*. A mapstory is a type of map that shows change over time, which
is, like wikipedia or openstreetmap (OSM, www.openstreetmap.org), being
developed in an online community built on the same standards of openness,
at *www.mapstory.org* <http://www.mapstory.org>. We are aware that
wikimedia and openstreetmap (OSM) are collaborating to serve OSM data
through wikimedia to be seen on wikipedia articles, and would love to do
the same. MapStory is inspired by both openstreetmap and wikipedia, and is
being built on the same standards of openness, and intends to be yet
another companion in the open knowledge community, and is to be governed in
similar ways by the MapStory Foundation. At the moment, MapStory is
invitation-based, as it is being developed, but it will be fully open to
anyone's registration.

Examples of mapstories include:
*Events: Yellowstone Fire: http://mapstory.org/maps/149
*Trends: Population Growth: http://mapstory.org/maps/162
*General historical change: Africa: http://mapstory.org/maps/153, walmart:
http://mapstory.org/maps/60, NYC subway: http://mapstory.org/maps/117/view
*Large scale mapstories - some mapstories will be enormous, allowing you to
eventually type in a time, and see the way the world was then. So, a user
might type in "1900", and see all the roads, buildings, land use, and
landscape down to very local levels, like you can with OSM now.

The integration of mapstories into wikipedia and other wikimedia projects
would be extremely fruitful. I can imagine that any article about political
entities, events, and statistics can, and probably will, have a mapstory.
I'll reply to this message with some examples in a moment.
*
What do we need to do in order for us to establish a MapStory labs project,
or add ourselves to an existing one? *Unfortunately, I am not a developer
myself, but we can at least get started while the developers crank out the
core mapstory functionality.

I've cc-ed Christopher Tucker, the founder of MapStory.
Please reply-all if you can :)

Thanks,
Nitin Gadia
Ames, Iowa, USA
MapStory Foundation
*www.mapstory.org* <http://www.mapstory.org>
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Nitin Gadia

2012-07-27 23:13:55 UTC

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Some examples of where there could be very fruitful collaboration between
wikipedia and mapstory:

*An amazing article entitled "Territorial Evolution of North America". The
article has all the information for each change in boundaries of non-native
nations, and an animated gif map that is essentially a mapstory. People in
mapstory can have all the tools to add annotations and increasing detail,
and can create a dynamism that is in the spirit of wikipedia.
- Article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_evolution_of_North_America
- Animated map (a good example of a mapstory in wikipedia):
Loading Image...

*Yellowstone fire. This article has a nice animated map as well, for which
there is already a mapstory:
- Article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowstone_fire
- Animation (again, essentially a mapstory):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:This_multi-colored_animation_shows_the_different_fires_that_ignited,_combined_and_spread_throughout_Yellowstone_from_Jun._30_to_Oct._2,_1988.ogv
- mapstory: http://mapstory.org/maps/149

Mapstory is an enormous project that is in heavy development right now.
Mapstories will eventually have smooth playback, with timesliders, and a
large host of functionality.

Nitin

Post by Nitin Gadia
Hello,
We recently attended Wikimania in Washington DC, where we met Erik M?ller<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_M%C3%B6ller>,
who showed us Wikimedia Labs, telling us it would be a good fit. We're
interested in helping create a Wikimedia Labs project around serving *
mapstories*. A mapstory is a type of map that shows change over time,
which is, like wikipedia or openstreetmap (OSM, www.openstreetmap.org),
being developed in an online community built on the same standards of
openness, at *www.mapstory.org* <http://www.mapstory.org>. We are aware
that wikimedia and openstreetmap (OSM) are collaborating to serve OSM data
through wikimedia to be seen on wikipedia articles, and would love to do
the same. MapStory is inspired by both openstreetmap and wikipedia, and is
being built on the same standards of openness, and intends to be yet
another companion in the open knowledge community, and is to be governed in
similar ways by the MapStory Foundation. At the moment, MapStory is
invitation-based, as it is being developed, but it will be fully open to
anyone's registration.
*Events: Yellowstone Fire: http://mapstory.org/maps/149
*Trends: Population Growth: http://mapstory.org/maps/162
*General historical change: Africa: http://mapstory.org/maps/153,
http://mapstory.org/maps/117/view
*Large scale mapstories - some mapstories will be enormous, allowing you
to eventually type in a time, and see the way the world was then. So, a
user might type in "1900", and see all the roads, buildings, land use, and
landscape down to very local levels, like you can with OSM now.
The integration of mapstories into wikipedia and other wikimedia projects
would be extremely fruitful. I can imagine that any article about political
entities, events, and statistics can, and probably will, have a mapstory.
I'll reply to this message with some examples in a moment.
*
What do we need to do in order for us to establish a MapStory labs
project, or add ourselves to an existing one? *Unfortunately, I am not a
developer myself, but we can at least get started while the developers
crank out the core mapstory functionality.
I've cc-ed Christopher Tucker, the founder of MapStory.
Please reply-all if you can :)
Thanks,
Nitin Gadia
Ames, Iowa, USA
MapStory Foundation
*www.mapstory.org* <http://www.mapstory.org>

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Ryan Lane

2012-07-27 23:16:12 UTC

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I just created it. We'll need people to add to it, though. They'll
need to sign up for access at:

http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_access

- Ryan

Post by Nitin Gadia
Hello,
We recently attended Wikimania in Washington DC, where we met Erik M?ller,
who showed us Wikimedia Labs, telling us it would be a good fit. We're
interested in helping create a Wikimedia Labs project around serving
mapstories. A mapstory is a type of map that shows change over time, which
is, like wikipedia or openstreetmap (OSM, www.openstreetmap.org), being
developed in an online community built on the same standards of openness, at
www.mapstory.org. We are aware that wikimedia and openstreetmap (OSM) are
collaborating to serve OSM data through wikimedia to be seen on wikipedia
articles, and would love to do the same. MapStory is inspired by both
openstreetmap and wikipedia, and is being built on the same standards of
openness, and intends to be yet another companion in the open knowledge
community, and is to be governed in similar ways by the MapStory Foundation.
At the moment, MapStory is invitation-based, as it is being developed, but
it will be fully open to anyone's registration.
*Events: Yellowstone Fire: http://mapstory.org/maps/149
*Trends: Population Growth: http://mapstory.org/maps/162
http://mapstory.org/maps/60, NYC subway: http://mapstory.org/maps/117/view
*Large scale mapstories - some mapstories will be enormous, allowing you to
eventually type in a time, and see the way the world was then. So, a user
might type in "1900", and see all the roads, buildings, land use, and
landscape down to very local levels, like you can with OSM now.
The integration of mapstories into wikipedia and other wikimedia projects
would be extremely fruitful. I can imagine that any article about political
entities, events, and statistics can, and probably will, have a mapstory.
I'll reply to this message with some examples in a moment.
What do we need to do in order for us to establish a MapStory labs project,
or add ourselves to an existing one? Unfortunately, I am not a developer
myself, but we can at least get started while the developers crank out the
core mapstory functionality.
I've cc-ed Christopher Tucker, the founder of MapStory.
Please reply-all if you can :)
Thanks,
Nitin Gadia
Ames, Iowa, USA
MapStory Foundation
www.mapstory.org
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Nitin Gadia

2012-07-27 23:23:47 UTC

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hahaha
awesome :)

Just signed up.
I'm not a developer, but I suppose you learn by doing.
I'll just have others jump in too in order to establish things :)

Chris - check it out (scroll down to MapStory):
https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Ask/-5B-5BResource-20Type::project-5D-5D/-3F/-3FMember/-3FDescription/mainlabel%3D-2D/searchlabel%3Dprojects/offset%3D0

nitin

Post by Ryan Lane
I just created it. We'll need people to add to it, though. They'll
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_access
- Ryan

Post by Nitin Gadia
Hello,
We recently attended Wikimania in Washington DC, where we met Erik

M?ller,

Post by Nitin Gadia
who showed us Wikimedia Labs, telling us it would be a good fit. We're
interested in helping create a Wikimedia Labs project around serving
mapstories. A mapstory is a type of map that shows change over time,

which

Post by Nitin Gadia
is, like wikipedia or openstreetmap (OSM, www.openstreetmap.org), being
developed in an online community built on the same standards of

openness, at

Post by Nitin Gadia
www.mapstory.org. We are aware that wikimedia and openstreetmap (OSM)

are

Post by Nitin Gadia
collaborating to serve OSM data through wikimedia to be seen on wikipedia
articles, and would love to do the same. MapStory is inspired by both
openstreetmap and wikipedia, and is being built on the same standards of
openness, and intends to be yet another companion in the open knowledge
community, and is to be governed in similar ways by the MapStory

Foundation.

Post by Nitin Gadia
At the moment, MapStory is invitation-based, as it is being developed,

but

Post by Nitin Gadia
it will be fully open to anyone's registration.
*Events: Yellowstone Fire: http://mapstory.org/maps/149
*Trends: Population Growth: http://mapstory.org/maps/162
*General historical change: Africa: http://mapstory.org/maps/153,

http://mapstory.org/maps/117/view

Post by Nitin Gadia
*Large scale mapstories - some mapstories will be enormous, allowing you

Post by Nitin Gadia
eventually type in a time, and see the way the world was then. So, a user
might type in "1900", and see all the roads, buildings, land use, and
landscape down to very local levels, like you can with OSM now.
The integration of mapstories into wikipedia and other wikimedia projects
would be extremely fruitful. I can imagine that any article about

political

Post by Nitin Gadia
entities, events, and statistics can, and probably will, have a mapstory.
I'll reply to this message with some examples in a moment.
What do we need to do in order for us to establish a MapStory labs

project,

Post by Nitin Gadia
or add ourselves to an existing one? Unfortunately, I am not a developer
myself, but we can at least get started while the developers crank out

the

Post by Nitin Gadia
core mapstory functionality.
I've cc-ed Christopher Tucker, the founder of MapStory.
Please reply-all if you can :)
Thanks,
Nitin Gadia
Ames, Iowa, USA
MapStory Foundation
www.mapstory.org
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Christopher Tucker

2012-07-27 23:43:42 UTC

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Nice! Thx!

Post by Nitin Gadia
hahaha
awesome :)
Just signed up.
I'm not a developer, but I suppose you learn by doing.
I'll just have others jump in too in order to establish things :)
https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Ask/-5B-5BResource-20Type::project-5D-5D/-3F/-3FMember/-3FDescription/mainlabel%3D-2D/searchlabel%3Dprojects/offset%3D0
nitin
I just created it. We'll need people to add to it, though. They'll
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_access
- Ryan

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Platonides

2012-07-27 23:28:09 UTC

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Note that labs is a suitable place for testing that mapstory
functionality, but not for a final product.